"He went on to apply it to music. Continue, and pardon the
interruption."

"These three states of perception are the three worlds. Existence is
Faceny's world, relation is Amfuse's world, feeling is Thire's
world."

"Can't we come down to hard facts?" said Maskull, frowning. "I
understand no more than I did before what you mean by three worlds."

"There are no harder facts than the ones I am giving you. The first
world is visible, tangible Nature. It was created by Faceny out of
nothingness, and therefore we call it Existence."

"That I understand."

"The second world is Love--by which I don't mean lust. Without
love, every individual would be entirely self-centred and unable
deliberately to act on others. Without love, there would be no
sympathy--not even hatred, anger, or revenge would be possible.
These are all imperfect and distorted forms of pure love.
Interpenetrating Faceny's world of Nature, therefore, we have
Amfuse's world of Love, or Relation."

"What grounds have you for assuming that this so-called second world
is not contained in the first?"

"They are contradictory. A natural man lives for himself; a lover
lives for others."